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I can't speak for others but I'm not sure where you're coming from with your claims of us requesting you to roleplay each bolt separately.

I'm quite sure the thing you're on about is us not allowing massive actions done in a couple single emotes, such as "/me finds the required part and removes it".

 

The transmission argument; You never brought any proof to back your claims and with a few minutes of googling, we found quite a few sources proving your claims wrong.

 

I must agree with Zac, we must expect high detail in the roleplay, otherwise the reasonable/realistic daily car vs 1000hp sleeper daily car rate would be even worse. Sure, we're an OOC team, but we're still responsible for allowing/disallowing these unrealistic things to be done.

 

And to finish off, if I understood you correctly, you said it's difficult to roleplay fixing up a car just to have it crashed into or w/e by a troll and then have all your work go down the drain - Again, if you've sufficient proof, you can always report the troll.

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1 hour ago, Wingatar said:

Our beloved Vehicle Consultant Team.. They expect so much from people on a video game. I understand they want detail, but when they get detail, they say you don't have enough "lines." I understand there is a guideline but it seems as if they don't pay attention to detail within a single /me, but would rather see 50 /me's of someone RPing removing shit one bolt at a time. This kills the fun in building cars and or fixing them, it feels like a real job to fix up a car just for some troll to try and fuck it up eventually. This is a video game, I repeat a video game. We also tend to forget things because guess what, it's a video game, not real life. In real life, I would see that I missed a bolt or two, but since i don't have the actual objects, considering its a VIDEO GAME, it would be hard to memorize a few things. 

 

The Vehicle team has went to shit and I believe new rules should be applied rather than basing roleplay off of a guideline and they actually pay attention to the detail, not the amount of /me's. Being a mechanic is insanely boring on here and it's no fun when you continuously have to explain how certain stock transmissions can handle 700 plus horse power, but the stock clutch can not. It's ridiculous. I want to see people learn and actually enjoy Roleplaying a mechanic, on here it's fucking horrid, I nearly had a stroke trying to get the Vehicle team to accept an application.

 

I believe there is change that needs to come. 

iirc you were something like a mechanic irl?

i totally agree with what you're saying when it comes to quality > quantity,

but the last part of your first paragraph is not really what the server is about.

realism is the key.

 

1 hour ago, imsilver said:

did they deny your 1500hp rice box modification request or what's the reason for you to cry a river here

why do you even comment when you drop dead ass jokes? i dont see the point of all these people who try to be funny when someone tries to address a problem.

 

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27 minutes ago, disappoint said:

I can't speak for others but I'm not sure where you're coming from with your claims of us requesting you to roleplay each bolt separately.

I'm quite sure the thing you're on about is us not allowing massive actions done in a couple single emotes, such as "/me finds the required part and removes it".

 

The transmission argument; You never brought any proof to back your claims and with a few minutes of googling, we found quite a few sources proving your claims wrong.

 

I must agree with Zac, we must expect high detail in the roleplay, otherwise the reasonable/realistic daily car vs 1000hp sleeper daily car rate would be even worse. Sure, we're an OOC team, but we're still responsible for allowing/disallowing these unrealistic things to be done.

 

And to finish off, if I understood you correctly, you said it's difficult to roleplay fixing up a car just to have it crashed into or w/e by a troll and then have all your work go down the drain - Again, if you've sufficient proof, you can always report the troll.

You can google things all day but people have different answer for everything.

 

Yes the Muncie M21 Rockcrusher transmission can handle 800 horse power at the most, but it will need a way better clutch and regular street tires for less grip to avoid snapping the drive shaft. It's a budget build and I've witnessed this first hand, in person. If you have to rely on google and say you know about cars, then you really shouldn't be on the Vehicle Team.

Oh yeah better axles are prefered but the stock axles in an el camino were good none the less.  Anyhow I've had several people I've talked to that tried doing Mechanic stuff tell me that they missed like a bolt or something and because of that small detail, their logs were denied.

1 hour ago, imsilver said:

did they deny your 1500hp rice box modification request or what's the reason for you to cry a river here

Actually I was planning on engine swapping my El Camino with a build 454 that would fit right in, but I would need to fabricate the hood for the supercharger and blower. The engine makes 800 horse power, but to the wheels it wouldn't make anymore than like 700 considering it's a heavy vehicle.. Anyhow keep your bullshit off of this, I'm wanting the Vehicle team to change so maybe mechanic RP can change and be a little more fun, rather than stroke inducing.

 

And I'm not crying a river, it's called wanting a change because I believe there is an issue if the VT has to google if a modification will work.

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7 minutes ago, Wingatar said:

You can google things all day but people have different answer for everything.

So I should rather trust a single guy on a game forum instead of multiple people on various car related forums, often specializing in that exact model of the car. Gotcha.

 

8 minutes ago, Wingatar said:

If you have to rely on google and say you know about cars, then you really shouldn't be on the Vehicle Team.

Not sure if you're aware not all cars are sold worldwide and there are literally millions of different cars, so, my sincere apologies for not being a specialist on the Muncie M21, buddy.

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Muncie M21 was used in the Camaro's too. Chevelle's. Nova..

 

And yeah I've seen those forums, there are several different answers saying "it'll handle 600"

 

"no it'll handle it"

 

"No it'll break"

 

How are you so certain that they're right too? It all depends on how well the transmission has been taken care of and it's best to do a complete rebuild on it before doing this so it can most definitely withstand the power. 

 

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2 hours ago, Wingatar said:

Our beloved Vehicle Consultant Team.. They expect so much from people on a video game. I understand they want detail, but when they get detail, they say you don't have enough "lines." I understand there is a guideline but it seems as if they don't pay attention to detail within a single /me, but would rather see 50 /me's of someone RPing removing shit one bolt at a time. This kills the fun in building cars and or fixing them, it feels like a real job to fix up a car just for some troll to try and fuck it up eventually. This is a video game, I repeat a video game. We also tend to forget things because guess what, it's a video game, not real life. In real life, I would see that I missed a bolt or two, but since i don't have the actual objects, considering its a VIDEO GAME, it would be hard to memorize a few things. 

 

The Vehicle team has went to shit and I believe new rules should be applied rather than basing roleplay off of a guideline and they actually pay attention to the detail, not the amount of /me's. Being a mechanic is insanely boring on here and it's no fun when you continuously have to explain how certain stock transmissions can handle 700 plus horse power, but the stock clutch can not. It's ridiculous. I want to see people learn and actually enjoy Roleplaying a mechanic, on here it's fucking horrid, I nearly had a stroke trying to get the Vehicle team to accept an application.

 

I believe there is change that needs to come. 

idk what u on about but lack of detail is prolly there or some shit and you cant admit it. Whenever I do logs, I put just enough detail so I don't have to keep repeating myself with /me's and /do's. I've RP'ed putting an engine into the car, assembling supporting mods after with just about 400 lines so off you pop with accusing VT prefer quantity over quality. Go put a fart can on a multipla or some shit yeah

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i dunno maybe stop whining on the forums about something that could easily be cleared up im private messages or a uat contact

 

i was still in vt when this bullshit regarding muncie boxes was going on still and you didn't back up your claims in any way shape or form

 

just sayin'

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/me throws 70 thousand dollars at the vehicle. 

/do the car would magically have 2000 horsepower.

 

Your welcome.

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And it eventually got accepted after i had to explain it as well, you was gone by then. It's sad I had to write a book on how a fucking transmission can handle the power with a rebuild. The internals are easily interchangeable with parts that can handle power, come the fuck on.

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7 minutes ago, Wingatar said:

And it eventually got accepted after i had to explain it as well, you was gone by then. It's sad I had to write a book on how a fucking transmission can handle the power with a rebuild. The internals are easily interchangeable with parts that can handle power, come the fuck on.

You said "stock transmission" in your original post, now you're talking about swapping internals. 

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1 minute ago, disappoint said:

You said "stock transmission" in your original post, now you're talking about swapping internals. 

Stock can handle it, but swapping the internals means you wouldn't have to rebuild it for a while longer. all transmissions need rebuild eventually, and I'm the one that likes that RP. I would RP my vehicle breaking down more often if I wouldn't have a stroke trying to fucking fix it.

 

Just L&A this someone. I'm done. can't even state an opinion without the children coming out of the depths with the "Salty," or "crying," arguments.

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19 minutes ago, Wingatar said:

And it eventually got accepted after i had to explain it as well, you was gone by then. It's sad I had to write a book on how a fucking transmission can handle the power with a rebuild. The internals are easily interchangeable with parts that can handle power, come the fuck on.

 

8 minutes ago, Wingatar said:

Stock can handle it, but swapping the internals means you wouldn't have to rebuild it for a while longer. all transmissions need rebuild eventually, and I'm the one that likes that RP. I would RP my vehicle breaking down more often if I wouldn't have a stroke trying to fucking fix it.

 

Just L&A this someone. I'm done. can't even state an opinion without the children coming out of the depths with the "Salty," or "crying," arguments.

I'm not a specialist on M21's nor M22's. From what I've read, even the M22 is capable of handling the maximum of 600HP with the proper rear end gear. 700HP on a stock M21, high loads and aluminum cases? Nah mate. Not the best combination.

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I literally specified earlier that it wouldn't handle well with drag slicks or extremely grippy tires. Hence why I said it would be on regular street tires, it will spin a bit but it will eventually get going. It's not an off the line build I was going for.

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:C bad Vehicle Car Team don't know how to do their work, using google to see how strong parts are SMH.

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No, but in all seriousness, i think there's nothing wrong with using google to explore the unknown car parts and what ever, i also ask from other people that know better, for example @EPICxNUTS is rather smart on nissan engines. We're not robots that know everything.

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