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Good morning/afternoon to my fellow Owl-gaming members, there is an upcoming lawsuit titled: United States v. California. This is a regards to the sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, Malibu, Sacramento, Oakland, and San Francisco to allow Illegal Immigrant into the state, and is believed to violate federal law. The Attorney General of the U.S Jeff Sessions is filing a federal lawsuit against The State of California? What is your reaction to the lawsuit? 

 

Scenario one:

This will take place in the East Los Angeles area, there is an illegal married couple that just had two children who are considered U.S citizens. As the President of The United States, would you order ICE agents to take the family into custody, and deport them?

 

Answer for me: 

The family should have never been in this country in the first place just because, they had two children that are NOW U.S Citizens they can stay here.

 

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/377344-oakland-mayor-fires-back-at-sessions-how-dare-you-distort-the-reality-to

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/07/trump-administration-lawsuit-against-california-the-latest-volley-in-war-of-words-and-litigation/

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This is a gaming community mostly populated by 14 year olds. Not talking politics here for both of those reasons.

 

Log on and half fun instead of trying to getting into political debates on a gaming community forum.

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As said above, it'd be better to have SAN or a sorts of news company IC cover it instead of discussing a matter like this with people who either don't have the knowledge or care to bother putting their imput on this.

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18 minutes ago, Novixsus said:

Name: Baldunit88

Comment: These fucking beaners

My neighbor

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yeah better to have a quality news channel like the folks over there at maz news cover this IC

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17 hours ago, GamerX27 said:

The family should have never been in this country in the first place just because, they had two children that are NOW U.S Citizens they can stay here.

 

What does it matter to you? Or anyone else for that matter? They are people, like you, like me and like everyone else that plays in this community or lives on this planet. Who are YOU? To say where someone can or can't live? Or where they can or can't have kids? 

 

This whole world is a fucked up place, but people like yourself or the other people that hate on illegal immigrants for trying to have a better life are honestly the cancer of this world. When are we going to stop dragging people down just because of the country they come from? Or the colour of their skin? Illegal immigration is a HUGE problem all over the world especially here in the UK, but unless they are killing people, raping women or kids or in any other way violating the moral laws of being a human, why can't they live where ever they like? Whats the issue?

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I would rather watch Trump find a way how to use these immigrants so both USA and the immigrants benefit from it. 

Like, getting them a low-experience-needed job where they would gain enough money to live off a whole month and in at the same time boost the economy of USA by having someone who does the little things.

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5 hours ago, Jetson said:

What does it matter to you? Or anyone else for that matter? They are people, like you, like me and like everyone else that plays in this community or lives on this planet. Who are YOU? To say where someone can or can't live? Or where they can or can't have kids? 

 

This whole world is a fucked up place, but people like yourself or the other people that hate on illegal immigrants for trying to have a better life are honestly the cancer of this world. When are we going to stop dragging people down just because of the country they come from? Or the colour of their skin? Illegal immigration is a HUGE problem all over the world especially here in the UK, but unless they are killing people, raping women or kids or in any other way violating the moral laws of being a human, why can't they live where ever they like? Whats the issue?

Have you heard of MS-13? MS-13 is a salvadorian gang from El Salvador, they bring MS-13 gang members from El Salvador, most gang leaders in MS-13 tell other members to bring their fellow members from El Salvador. DACA is fucking America up, taking away taxpayer dollars to keep living here. Same thing with the haitian earthquake survivors. Both them, and DACA immigrants are not paying their taxes. It's time for the Haitians to go back to their country, unless they apply for citizenship. 

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How many tax dollars do you pay every week?

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3 minutes ago, Jetson said:

How many tax dollars do you pay every week?

I'm not an adult. I'm 14 years old.

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1 hour ago, GamerX27 said:

MS-13 is a salvadorian gang from El Salvador

Well shit, I thought they're Salvadorian from Venezuela.

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41 minutes ago, usev25 said:

Well shit, I thought they're Salvadorian from Venezuela.

wiseass

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7 hours ago, Jetson said:

What does it matter to you? Or anyone else for that matter? They are people, like you, like me and like everyone else that plays in this community or lives on this planet. Who are YOU? To say where someone can or can't live? Or where they can or can't have kids? 

 

This whole world is a fucked up place, but people like yourself or the other people that hate on illegal immigrants for trying to have a better life are honestly the cancer of this world. When are we going to stop dragging people down just because of the country they come from? Or the colour of their skin? Illegal immigration is a HUGE problem all over the world especially here in the UK, but unless they are killing people, raping women or kids or in any other way violating the moral laws of being a human, why can't they live where ever they like? Whats the issue?

Bunch of nonsense. More emotions than truth.

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8 hours ago, Jetson said:

 What does it matter to you? Or anyone else for that matter? They are people, like you, like me and like everyone else that plays in this community or lives on this planet. Who are YOU? To say where someone can or can't live? Or where they can or can't have kids? 

 

This whole world is a fucked up place, but people like yourself or the other people that hate on illegal immigrants for trying to have a better life are honestly the cancer of this world. When are we going to stop dragging people down just because of the country they come from? Or the colour of their skin? Illegal immigration is a HUGE problem all over the world especially here in the UK, but unless they are killing people, raping women or kids or in any other way violating the moral laws of being a human, why can't they live where ever they like? Whats the issue?

Immigration must be controlled to help screen people coming in. Open borders means we are not taking security measures to look into the people we’re letting in (such as a criminal). Mass immigration takes a heavy negative toll on the economy, so regulating who we let in is actually a good thing. In Canada, we allow people primarily based on their wealth, family members inside of Canada, legal ties and aid they can bring (perhaps they’re a doctor or specialist in a area that we little of). If you’re a wealthy individual you get in easily as it means you’re able to help strengthen the Canadian economy by buying a home or other things, if you have family it means they can support you till you find a job, if you are a medical care taker or some sort of guardian you have a chance of getting in as well. I personally believe a strict immigration is needed so we can identify someones intentions living here, the financial impact they’ll have, criminal background, etc. People coming from countries known for terrorism and attacks should be looked at under a fine lens or denied completely so we can minimalize risk, but our Prime Minister is a total freak who lets anyone in. People aren’t refused entry because of their skin, it’s becsuse of their criminal status, family ties, financials, the threat level of their home country, etc. Of course if you’re a good moral individual who obviously can benefit the country you have to meet the standard of such (that given your chances of being granted citizenship is much higher). By entering a country illegally, you’re skipping the immigration process and violating the law itself (meaning you’re now a criminal and should not live in the country).

 

People become illegal immigrants by either staying with a expired visa or entering the country through breached entrances or being smuggled in by people usually affiliated with gangs, cartels or terrorist groups. 

 

 

I personally would would like to see a total halt on immigration against countries in civil and non civil wars. Non asylum seekers and refugees to be deported due to the lack of screening they go through and threat they potentially can pose. Yes they may be seeking a better life but at our own expense, paying for non citizens to live here and be babied when a collective of them could  be sympathizers, members or agents of terrorist or criminal groups.

 

 

 

Edit: People shouldn’t be let in so we can wait and see if they rape or kill  to determine whether or not we should deport them, total idiotic non sense. 

Edited by DrJoseEviI

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3 hours ago, DrJoseEviI said:

Open borders means we are not taking security measures to look into the people we’re letting in (such as a criminal). 

 

People become illegal immigrants by either staying with a expired visa or entering the country through breached entrances or being smuggled in by people usually affiliated with gangs, cartels or terrorist groups. 

 

 

Do you believe that the U.S should have open border?

I do believe that most illegal aliens pay thousands of dollars to coyotes to smuggle them into the U.S but they can use that money to apply for citizenship, and or a visa.

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3 hours ago, GamerX27 said:

Do you believe that the U.S should have open border?

 

Fuck no, I'm not a pussy cuck. Open borders are bad, as I stated.

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i Just find it absolutely fucking ridiculous we are discussing this subject in the first place. People who enter the country illegally should never allowed to stay. There are millions of people applying for visas legally (my family was one of them) and they get them. There are those who enter illegally because they don’t want to apply at the risk of getting denied. That is no different than cutting the line at the store or walking into a meeting with no invite. 

 

It is not okay, stop sympathizing with that ideal. That’s the problem with our world, everyone wants handouts. Get a fucking job, apply for a visa, and work your way through your obstacles.

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1 hour ago, DrJoseEviI said:

Fuck no, I'm not a pussy cuck. Open borders are bad, as I stated.

xD

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3 hours ago, ResidentPeach said:

This thread is a prime example in as to why politics is too mature of a topic for anyone to debate or discuss here.

 

I love when people try to act super serious and emulate real life in their role play and take criminal aspects or law enforcement very seriously but when someone out of character brings up politics, they get shit on by the same people who are serious about other topics, or they troll. How do they expect people to emulate a world around them through role play if they don't understand the real world and discuss it?

 

>Omg look at all this research I'm doing for my fackshun I do the marijuanas IRL I am basically a criminal expert now. I am uber badass.
>Sees a politics thread and comments: "lol gay".

 

I'd take the notch a bit lower and say there's a lack of comprehension of the subject let alone a willingness to discuss or debate. It's shitposting and low energy shitposting at that.

 

Someone get the helicopters and the delousing agents.

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I'm not against the screening of these immigrants to make sure they are not a threat to your country or my country where ever they choose to try and reside. Of course you have to check people out before you can let them in. However the point I am trying to make, is that if your sweet as fuck little house in fuck knows where USA looked like this  

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Because on a daily basis you have countries from all over the world, wading their feet in to places that didn't really concern us in the first place. To try and "police the world". But to police the world its just easier to drop 100 bombs on innocent people every single day, and you ask why do these people deserve a better life? In your own argument 

8 hours ago, Gambit said:

If you allow everyone in, it will be way fucking harder to prevent crime. They lack the ability to pay their taxes and hard-working, legal citizens have to pay for it making them pay over 100 billion each year, education for them? 50 billion. America is expected approach 21 trillion dollars in debt by 2019, why should they dig a deeper hole? Payment for treatment of the uninsured can go as high as 2 billion. Half a billion per year to incarcerate those committing crimes. If you want to look into this further, go ahead. 

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In one year, on "defense"? I mean im no expert but im pretty sure to defend something is to like stand your ground and defend what is yours right? Not bomb fuck out of a country everyday to bring it to its knees. Come on, you haven't got to be a fucking maths genius to figure out "Oh we have no money, but we can happily spend BILLIONS of dollars a year, to bomb the fuck out of a desert. Makes sense hmmm.

 

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How can we all sit back, myself included because the UK is a part of this problem too, but how can we all sit here and think that its acceptable to have people living like this and not offer them a handout in life? The Haitians coming across to the US in search of a better life... because everything they owned and knew is a great big pile of rubble now. IM NOT SAYING DONT SCREEN PEOPLE. Your MS13 Gang members, sure fuck em dont let them in because they are proven criminals. Killers, rapists and drug dealers, anyone even remotely connected to terrorism or sympathies with the cause of such countries, NO ENTRY. THATS FAIR ENOUGH. But what about the people that are fleeing such things? Just how me and you sometimes sit and think, maybe the terrorists will start going fucking mental and bombing every fucking place on this earth. ITS ALREADY HAPPENING TO THEM. You really dont have a fucking clue in to what is really going on with the world. HELP PEOPLE, instead of sitting in your kushy little home, typing on a forums about how the "the immigrants do this and they do that wah wah wah", OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Have a heart for the people who genuinely need the help of big countries such as the USA and the UK.

 

I'd like to end by saying that @DrJoseEviI and @Gambit I agree with what your saying of course I do, I dont want immigrants in my country raping people and killing people etc, who does? But do some research, compare the number of attacks that can be PROVEN links to terrorism on US soil, to the amount of Mass shootings in the USA carried out by US citizens. So its okay to let someone who is a citizen of your country to go in to a school and shoot as many people as possible and then get sent to jail, but if an immigrant was to do it we'd all join forces and bomb their country of origin for a few extra weeks. Its the same here in the UK, how many crimes, such as murder, rape and kidnappings happen every day around the country (obviously on a smaller scale) but its only a real problem when they don't come from the country you live in? Give over

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Nobody gives a fuck if they're "people just like us" Fuck em

They're not our kin, they don't support this country, they leach off of hardworking Americans like parasites. Deport them and build the wall, now.

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