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Solving problems in/with legal roleplay.

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Instead of saying "solve illegal RP" or "solve x RP" how about someone put forth some actual constructive criticism that can help make it better?Seems most people just wanna say that but can't come up with a solution to "solve" it that doesn't usually involve making their faction official or something. But I'm genuinely interested in seeing something constructive for once.

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Instead of saying "solve illegal RP" or "solve x RP" how about someone put forth some actual constructive criticism that can help make it better?Seems most people just wanna say that but can't come up with a solution to "solve" it that doesn't usually involve making their faction official or something. But I'm genuinely interested in seeing something constructive for once.
Again, fix the illegal RP.
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A problem I'm experiencing for quite a while now with legal RP is that people tend to not take it seriously enough. I hire someone to fill a designated role, we RP signing a contract and when RP needs to be done - the said person just does not come up. The difficulty with non-official factions imo is organisation. Non-officials lack F3 so there's no easy way to check if someone's online. A solution to that is to have all your 'employees' in your friends list, so that's kinda ok? Bigger issue is the needed, atleast from my point of view (loved the faction), of an OOC faction chat - that way meetings for RP can be organised OOCly first, before taking it ICly. I have tried to compensate for the lack of /f with setting-up forums, but still people don't tend to check them regularly.

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Again, fix the illegal RP.
how if everytime the team intervenes somewhere or when some faction is passed over for official people start crying out about how fmt sticks their noses everywhere and how they should just sit in the corner and watch the world burn?what are the problems that you feel like the fmt could fix in illegal then?
A problem I'm experiencing for quite a while now with legal RP is that people tend to not take it seriously enough. I hire someone to fill a designated role, we RP signing a contract and when RP needs to be done - the said person just does not come up. The difficulty with non-official factions imo is organisation. Non-officials lack F3 so there's no easy way to check if someone's online. A solution to that is to have all your 'employees' in your friends list, so that's kinda ok? Bigger issue is the needed, atleast from my point of view (loved the faction), of an OOC faction chat - that way meetings for RP can be organised OOCly first, before taking it ICly. I have tried to compensate for the lack of /f with setting-up forums, but still people don't tend to check them regularly.
not sure but I think that the new system for legal factions already lets you have an F3 without being an official faction but the truth is that there are other ways of keeping in touch with employees without resorting to it.skype groups tend to be better than forums and they're way easier to set up so I'd suggest going that route but even then this isn't an issue that we can fix.
Half the legal roleplay consists of statwhores and couple Roleplayers who do nothing else but some passive faction-shit and e-fuck for the rest of the day.
could list a few illegal factions that do that too but I feel like we shouldn't generalize at this point and assume that all legal roleplayers are like this.
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Biggest problem is that drug system is completely broken and retarded.Why would ANYONE buy drugs since they don't have to RP being hooked?It would help if the drugs had some positive effects that benefited the player/character so it would make the player/character come back for more.

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Biggest problem is that drug system is completely broken and retarded.Why would ANYONE buy drugs since they don't have to RP being hooked?It would help if the drugs had some positive effects that benefited the player/character so it would make the player/character come back for more.
the virtual markets street dealing means you don't even have to sell to players. it's very very easy to make money selling drugs right now.
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the virtual markets street dealing means you don't even have to sell to players. it's very very easy to make money selling drugs right now.
This isn't RP anymore if we don't even need to sell drugs to players.Hey, i got an idea - let's make npc's drive cars too.
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not sure but I think that the new system for legal factions already lets you have an F3 without being an official faction but the truth is that there are other ways of keeping in touch with employees without resorting to it.skype groups tend to be better than forums and they're way easier to set up so I'd suggest going that route but even then this isn't an issue that we can fix.
Kinda, 'thanks', but suggested idea of 'skype groups' kills whole idea of unofficial faction. Why? Because most likely you keep your faction only within your friend list, from the very beginning. Other people don't really have a chance of joining your faction, unless they want it so bad so that they are ready sacrifice soul to devil or whatnot. Such thing develops commuinity of 'clickers', or whatever this type of people is called, when they only roleplay with friends, never letting stranger in their 'group'. If you look around, actually, you'll see we have pretty much of these people on server already. Don't really want to mention names duo to unnecessary conflicts and originally different topic purpose.But back to thing we were discussing: F3 panel, on the other hand, would ease stuff a lot. Although, just like you, I have no idea whether it's implemented or not (I remember it was discussed at 'script suggestions' back in time, tho).
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This isn't RP anymore if we don't even need to sell drugs to players.Hey, i got an idea - let's make npc's drive cars too.
most real roleplay platforms also use NPCs for this kind of thing.a player-run economy will never be able to simulate the demand of an entire city if the player rate is 180 people max.
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Well, my biggest suggestion is... Make multiple factions able for 1 character. Just make it that you pay more taxes if you're in more factions so you won't be able to statwhore the extra payment.

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Well, my biggest suggestion is... Make multiple factions able for 1 character. Just make it that you pay more taxes if you're in more factions so you won't be able to statwhore the extra payment.
This has been accepted and is in the scripting teams to-do list.
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Biggest problem is that drug system is completely broken and retarded.Why would ANYONE buy drugs since they don't have to RP being hooked?It would help if the drugs had some positive effects that benefited the player/character so it would make the player/character come back for more.
Make a script suggestion for addiction then.
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Make a script suggestion for addiction then.
Already been rejected a few times as far as I'm aware. Not to mention if it get's implemented, it's really as easy as deleting the drugs instead of taking them if I want to continue RPing w/o addiction, because likelihood of addiction is influenced not only by Trauma + Poverty, but also by mental illness, family history of addiction and general personality, none of which can be scripted.
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I'd just like to step in here and say that if anyone has an issue with the LSPD in terms of legal RP, feel free to send me a forum PM here. I'll be more than happy to help you out with any issues, concerns, etc.I understand some people are upset with the department and blame that for part of the servers issues, but we're working on fixing it.

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I'd just like to step in here and say that if anyone has an issue with the LSPD in terms of legal RP, feel free to send me a forum PM here. I'll be more than happy to help you out with any issues, concerns, etc.I understand some people are upset with the department and blame that for part of the servers issues, but we're working on fixing it.
Likewise for the SAHP, I'm very open for any suggestions as well as concerns you may have with the HP. I'm pretty active on the forums, shoot me a PM if you wanna discuss/suggest something for HP, may it be positive or negative stuff, I'm always open for external people's opinion. It tends to be mostly internal suggestions and such that comes through to me as of right now, but I'd love to get more opinions off of people outside the faction that may have valid and good points.
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Likewise for the SAHP, I'm very open for any suggestions as well as concerns you may have with the HP. I'm pretty active on the forums, shoot me a PM if you wanna discuss/suggest something for HP, may it be positive or negative stuff, I'm always open for external people's opinion. It tends to be mostly internal suggestions and such that comes through to me as of right now, but I'd love to get more opinions off of people outside the faction that may have valid and good points.
Get out of my head, man.
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in my opinion, legal roleplay should not be predominantly automotive rp (car sales, mechanic biz). I'd like to see an actual working trade union, real estate firm, architecture bureau, waste management, land mowing company, plumbing company or a furniture shop. Also, for waste management or land mowing, there should be some kind of contracts put out by the government for these kinds of firms. When I tried to open a private waste management company back in January 2014, I tried to actually reach the upper administration regarding the contracts, but I actually received no response.I know waste management or land mowing can get boring by the time for the lower ranked workers like garbage truck drivers or land mowers because it tends to stop at few /me patterns, but that's what it is really like IRL. But actual interaction between workers and a few situations that can be added in it can make it real fun.Also, there should be a goddamn IRS on here. I actually really got a headache when I couldn't ran card games properly as an illegal gambling racket because people gone to casinos where there wasn't any tax on winnings. I'm not saying it should be create so that all gamblers should go to me or should just play in illegal gambling dens ran by illegal factions because there is no tax. It's to make some realism.Licenses as well. Please, return those licenses like a liquor license, construction license or a gambling license back. I know licenses can restrict something, but that's what it is IRL. Law restricts a lot of things with licenses. Unless you want create an anarchist state of San Andreas, but that's still another possible RP opportunity (politics).About, for an example, construction business. I'd like to see companies that sell construction material and actual architecture firms that make these plans. Instead of one company doing everything, it should cooperate with other companies that are in similar type of business. But, here, looks like main goal is money, not fun, so that's why these construction firms tend to do everything by themselves (not saying that there are no situations like this IRL, but we should really have more solidarity between each other and actually create roleplay for each other). If anyone feels like this could be possible or wants to talk more about these ideas, forum PM me and we could share skype accs.Please don't misunderstood my intentions with this post as I'm clearly not pushing FMT and Administration teams into busting their asses off to satisfy my wishes to see this or that. These are just ideas that I'd like to tell to the community. If I have to, I will bust my ass off for all of these ideas because I don't like demagogy and plain talking. I think first we have to fix the mentality of most of the people here before repairing the legal RP, because many tend to gain monopoly over biz they do.

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