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  1. That tune brings back memories. Good stuff guys
  2. Ok so. There was clear bias in the handling of the CK appeal. Majority agrees with me, only two people don’t. Rather than think “hey perhaps we are wrong?” they keep covering for each other with the presumption and arrogance that they are right no matter what. Not to mention the lies I’ve been told but whatever lol Basically this Anyway, I wanted to personally thank whoever supported this faction during our short and unfortunate run, the support I’ve personally received regarding the appeal caught me off guard and for that I’m extremely grateful no matter what. Those who got to know me, they all know how much I respect them and got to love them in such a short time. I’ve really met some brilliant folks here. However I realised that unfortunately development is easy to be thrown away and SOME people are not honest when it comes to do their job, doing what they do at the expenses of others without giving a shit. I have personally decided I don’t want to invest time in character development or faction development when people who got half a shady excuse and tons of gaps in their facts can get CKs approved. Plus me now being accused of saying that some admins made accusations when it’s entirely not true and not sure why all these claims against me or my case are brought up without an ounce of fucking proof. Some people really enjoy the benefits of their admin status, I am required to supply evidence, but they aren’t because their word is worth more than mine anyway apparently. After all, whatever I say, it just doesn’t get acknowledged. Admins are always right no matter what according to one or two guys. Despite everything I already won, because a lot of people know this is bullshit after all I honestly hope it was totally worth it to tear apart new factions who were growing together and sacrifice them for the sake of an inactive admin faction. But it doesn’t matter anymore. Last but not least, a BIG thank you to all the guys who joined our faction or roleplayed with us and contributed in any way to make this faction better day after day. Love you all Lock & Archive.
  3. You’re ALWAYS to be held to standards m. I don’t know if you’re genuinely using drugs or if you’re joking, because you can’t be serious. You wear a staff badge and that does represent the admin team. It’s like me wearing a police uniform and shoot an unarmed civilian at point blank and then media saying the officer doesn’t represent the police because he had a personal dispute with the unarmed civilian lmfao. Dude what the hell are you talking about? That one in the picture is an BLACK AND ORANGE BIKE, there were more than one of them outside The Bandidos MC club you were trying to raid. But there were none outside the Jackals MC fitting those colors. I’ve repeated myself over and over and you really don’t seem to get it. You call me arrogant but I bet out of 20 people you’d be surprised to see how very few people think you’re in the right. You’re the one who’s arrogant and thinks to be right because you wear a staff badge. Get off your high horse and get real. Gonna do something productive rather than waste my time repeating myself.
  4. So if that was an unmarked police vehicle they were gonna shoot it up just because it looked suspicious or the windows were tinted? He just said he didn’t even know The Bandidos, why the fuck then would he kill them all is beyond me. Lmfao I’m done, this is retarded.
  5. You don’t know anything about The Bandidos? Why you killed them then hahaha? Edvar must have given you information about them and the bikes they were riding, the colors of their patches which were exactly the same matching description of the bike you posted. No other explanation on how you tracked them down and identified them. It looks to me that you have done something to gain an unfair advantage overall, I mean I was warned that you play dirty but damn, never expected this. Not sure how you identified them if you don’t know anything about the Bandidos as you claim. I’d like to test the bush thing claim you made to see right through. Because as you can see in my screenshots from the original post, even I can’t see myself on the screen. I am very confident you traced my exact position via admin command at this point to be completely honest. Can you also stop calling us names please? “I’m not a biker weeaboo, like yourself.” It’s getting very silly, you’re an admin and you’re acting far from professional. You’ve done fuck all in this entire report to prove an ounce of your claims and have been more than happy to call us any sort of name, not sure if you’re trying to get a reaction out of us, rich considering you complained about our behaviour a few posts ago. To be honest it’s a disgraceful that you’re using derogatory terms and telling people to fuck off, let’s add this to the count of metagame and it’s not looking great all this.
  6. You must be kidding me lol. That is black and ORANGE, with a red seat. That bike with those color, there are at least 3 of them looking the same in front of the Bandidos MC in Dillimore. Have you seen any bike like that in Angel Pine or when you came to see us? No. You even went after The Bandidos and you should know full well that those colors belong to their MC as the patch on their back is bright orange and black. This is a joke honestly.
  7. I’m delusional now LOL. Then how did you know I was in the bush if you can’t see my skin through the bush due the game texture, especially if realistically talking at 2am you wouldn’t be able to anyway. Not only you found me in less than 180 seconds, but considering you just said you didn’t see any nametag and didn’t see me through the bush, how did you know I was in the bush? You said you drove up close to make sure I was in the bush which you didn’t because I haven’t heard you or your vehicle, but if you did, what have it away that I was in the bush? Surely not a bike that is parked in Angel Pine. @Sc0ttie confirmed The Bandidos do not possess any bike red and black and mine was left in angel pine. How you managed to find me is beyond me. If you actually believe your claims have legs to stand on then the only one to be delusional is yourself lol. Unitts confirmed in his first post that he had evidence suggesting you were in a different location than mine, he asked you to post evidence of how you found me, in 3 pages you went on and on, not once you posted a piece of evidence to back up any claim you made, you totally failed to do that. You also just confirmed yourself you metagamed my location, at this point the only way you could have found me was via OOC means, because it appears you made a b line to where I was hiding from the top of the road. Keep posting, because the more you post in this appeal and the more you give me ammunition and evidence. Didn’t see my skin or my nametag while I was hiding in a bush, yet you decide to drive up close to inspect a random bush in the middle of the countryside. Get out of here lol.
  8. Reposting this as I don’t think you saw my edit to the previous post to address these points. You also go from seeing me in a bush to then finding a bike similiar to the description you were given of my bike. Lol. My bike is BLACK with thin red lines. It’s right in front of the entrance of the Jackals MC, can’t miss it. You’d probably think that’s the bike matching the description, but you didn’t because you probably thought that bike was just all black, meaning your claim about my bike is again false just like pretty much everything else you’ve said in your defence. I really am tired of going around in circles here. This thread can be locked until a virdict is made, this way we can all stop running circles. You had two full pages to give a proper explanation as to how you found me and it’s all gray, all of it. No point carrying on because it’s obvious by now that you metagamed unfortunately.
  9. No one called you names such as “mong” or told you to “fuck off”. Salsa is a trial admin and you’re a full administrator. It is your job to enforce the rules even if it’s another administrator. Thank you for confirming your metagame. My bike was left in Angel Pine, we were with Craig’s car as you can see from the screenshots he provided. Still haven’t answered my bullet points other than being vague. Thank you.
  10. @Mogsif I may add just one thing to try and steer this back on topic: @DrJoseEviIyou’re moving this topic on IC misunderstanding and accusing us of mixing. To begin with, you should have never allowed Salsa to involve himself in RP. The RP of Edvar coming to the clubhouse was set up OOCly in order to help him and his faction out from inactivity, you blaming me for mixing is like me accusing you of mixing for submitting a CK request or saying that having a faction team to handle factions is metagaming. Even Stevie Wonder can see right through your attempt to spin this around. No advantage over anything or anybody was achieved with that in an unfair way from my side. But you allowing him to swap on a character who can rat me out is poor and cheap, as an admin you should know better rather than exploit this in your favour. He was with you guys on one character then swaps to Edvar and comes to the bar, you didn’t even question as to why he swapped to Edvar and came back? This is a red flag over your head for mixing. I repeat, because I’m a fair dude, I would have not involved him into the RP, just risky considering the circumstances, but looks like you don’t care at all about that lol. You also never provided proof here of how you found Roy in the bush, you weren’t anywhere near, evidence shows you being far away, you claim you drove up to the bush but we both know that’s a lie. So I’d honestly refrain if I was you from calling anyone a liar. Why that’s a lie? You claim you had been driving around for an hour, I’ve been in the bush for exactly 2:45 minutes/3 minutes now that I saw the logs again. You are telling me you did not see me enter the bush but out of all places on Earth you managed to locate me in the bush within 2 minutes and half when you were nowhere near there in the beginning when I entered that bush? Don’t know if your character is a robot, but you should RP having thermal goggles rather than just assume you can see someone in a bush from far away, also because due Game physics that’s impossible, so how did you locate me? You said you saw my clothes, but I never left the bush and you never saw me entering in it. You just shot yourself in the foot with your statements over and over, this is a clear case of metagame, if not admin abuse, because it’s really impossible for you to have located me and I’m sure this can be proved IG as well. We’ve also been all polite enough to keep it civil, it really comes across bad when this turns into a shitfest with people telling others to “fuck off” and calling people names. So for the last time, do you have the video evidence Unitts asked you, to prove your claims right? If not, sorry but your word isn’t enough to defend yourself from a metagame claim, because you never drove up close to me yet you knew exactly where I was. Voiding this RP was in your interest more than mine so I wouldn’t act so high and mighty about not wanting to void it now, because you metagamed, and went on a DM spree. You lost control of the entire RP son your behalf and got carried away with it. There was no ground for disregard of life from Roy so the CK doesn’t apply. I’m fairly sure you’re the only one who believes the CK is right, but that’s because you’re biased on the case. Every single person I speak to says this CK is bullshit, admins and non. - You never saw me enter the bush. - Unitts confirmed you were far from my location while I was in the bush at one point. - I hid in the bush and sat in there for 2:30 minutes or so roughly according to logs. - You being far from Roy managed to locate Roy within 2 minutes or so, as if you made a straight line all the way to Roy’s location. - Considering you never saw Roy enter the bush and that you physically can’t see through the bush due game physics, how did you see his clothes/skin? - You haveno reason or plausible cause whatsoever to drive up a bush just to confirm a nametag that you wouldn’t even be able to see from the road. So I wonder what gave it away that I was in the bush Would have been more of a valid argument if you saw my nametag from the road, but the fact you said you had to drive up to me when you couldn’t see nametag or skin speaks volume here. Nothing of what you have provided as an explanation on how you found me makes any sense. Awaiting for the virdict.
  11. And that’s ok. How you interpreted it then, given the points I gave you before? Donny told you about us, I know about Donny and his supplies. What do you make of it then? You came across like sketchy people, asking thousands of questions andbyet I knew nothing about you. If you came for business you could have made at any point mention that Donny was a friend of yours as I said before. The wording you chose and the tone the conversation took is what got me ICly on the defensive. Acting and formulating a judgement based on what you were told is fine, but that isn’t what was going on and I think a CK in this case is an absolute overkill. I’ve read the rule a few times over and essentially it all falls down to disregard of your own life, like being violent and reckless, careless of the consequences of your own choices. At the time Roy was paranoid as you said, had nothing planned against Clifftown, called off retaliation The Bandidos and Craig were ready to carry out (Haley was Craig’s girlfriend). Someone who is paranoid is not really disregarding his own safety and life, but also wouldn’t be afraid of the consequences of his actions. In that case Roy would have not stopped the assault on a Clifftown. I think a PK woukd have sufficed but then again there are still the other issues at hand that can’t really be brushed under the carpet.
  12. So going over what was said: (Bare with me it's late lol) You were told by Donny to come see us. " >Donny Morris informed Earl Irwin of the existence of the Jackals, being a potential group for business" You came to the club, we went in the back for a chat, you asked me if I knew Donny, I said yes and you asked me if I knew what business he was into, to which I also said yes. I then asked you if you wanted to know if I was buying supplies from him, but rather than receiving an answer from that, the topic was moved onto the territory, which Roy doesn't know about. What Roy knows about Donny is that he runs a gym in Ganton, that's it. He doesn't know he's with Clifftown. All this however, could have been avoided when the cue Roy dropped was "Are you asking me if I get supplies from him?" 1+1=2 after all. I don't know how it drifted from that to the current outcome lol https://imgur.com/sNoMur1 https://imgur.com/a/GpICRS8
  13. I got the logs/screenshot of it. Let me boot up the laptop
  14. @DrJoseEviI I reiterate this, Roy said to Earl’s face he was in business with Donny already, meaning he was already in business with you guys. How can you claim otherwise? This all kicked off because rather than discuss business and state you were with Donny, you were more incline in fucking shit up at the club and shooting people up lol. Otherwise if your intention was to really make business together, you would have said “good that’s great. Donny is a family, perhaps we can pick up from where you two left?” So please don’t make it look like I brought this upon myself because I sure as hell didn’t. All this was forced on me, all of it.
  15. You’re twisting this big time knowing what you did. You came in our bar with Salsa while Salsa was on his CLIFFTOWN character. Salsa then PMed me to OOCly test the ground for a possible merge of our factions under the jackals’s patch. We SET UP THE RP AT THE CLUB, and conveniently you used him as your inside mole. Salsa had no other reason to randomly show up st our clubhouse as he was rping with you on his Clifftown character. You (whether is you both or not, couldn’t care less at this point) took advantage of that. If this isn’t mixing then I’d like anybody else to tell me what this is. You keep saying you drove up to the bush, I must be really that stupid if I just stood there after hearing you coming up to the bush with your truck. The mixing, the metagaming, the freeze of The Bandidos while being shot at, there are multiple counts against you here. If you can’t see anything wrong with this then I really don’t know what to tell you. If I was you, I would have not involved Edvar to gain further advantage on the rp as he had already engaged it with his previous character. This is metagaming goddamn it lol, add it to the bush situation and it’s a massive cluster of bullshit. And to be honest it keeps coming across that you and Salsa have all your characters knowing each other somehow, like when Edvar told the Jackals to vouch for Klaus when he was running for commissioner, now he seems to be also in Earl’s pocket, and conveniently he shows up to play as a mole. Sorry but I don’t buy this bullshit man. And tell me how is being talked out of retaliation actually means planning to kill someone? Talking about cocky attitude when I feel like I'm being lied at. Thank you for the touch. You were nowhere near where I was, there was NO CAR nearby, you shot me from the distance as well. I’m sure you have a footage of your gameplay that can prove your claim right to contrast the evidence Unitts mentioned of you being far down the road? This is about honesty and I really don’t see much of it in this whole ordeal. I don’t see how my attitude has anything to do with my character’s behaviour, it’s irrelevant and I don’t know if I should take it as if you’re trying to imply anything of any relevance, but it’s petty to even mention after what I’ve been put through with this bullshit lol. I am annoyed and frustrated because I know you’re lying man, I got nothing against you personally but I expect to be treated with fairness and honesty, you carry a staff badge that should do justice to RP and the way all this scene got you to come across is as you’ve abused your powers to freeze the car, to locate me and to justify your killing spree. Your faction thread has been inactive for over a month, that only day I see you folks online mass murdering takes place, you then want to sugar coat it with Roy being close to cops (such a poor argument tbh considering your identity was already known as you acted reckless in a place Roy told you was equipped with Sparta security cameras). So I don’t see how Roy could have compromised Earl even further. And matter of fact it’s just another contrasting fact you mentioned. You set your heart in killing Roy the moment you were told he was close to coos yet you have Edvar call him to say he got attacked by you as a warning? What is there to warn about? Such an illogical bullshit roleplay this is. I hope rather than carry on with this ping pong you could perhaps provide evidence of you spotting Roy in the bush, considering how the rest isn’t enough of a reason imo to warrant a ck. At most in that case you’d go for a PK if you’re fearing he could do anything, guy loses knowledge and that’s that. Part ways. But a CK? There was no disregard for life. Apso you constantly say Roy didn’t want to do business. Also more lying if you saying Donny just mentioned the Jackals and you don’t k is shit bla bla bla of who your guys do business with, because Roy said in clear words that he was already buying from Donny to Earl’s face. When Earl didn’t confirm if he was with Donny that’s when Roy didn’t want to do business. But honestly I don’t think that even matters because during the entire ordeal you were reckless and it was obvious that out of boredom you were simply looking to stir trouble and now 3 factions have been paying the price for it for over a week. The death of character development literally. Such a pointless roleplay all this, born from you claiming Roy refused business with The Yokel Mafia when he clearly said he was in business with you. Your claims are so backwards man.
  16. There is one thing only that I will say to you both, I am not bothering to read the rest of what you wrote @DrJoseEviI If the mole was @Salsa I am reporting you both for mixing and metagaming, because Salsa approaches me OOCly (while he was on his Clifftown character with you at the Jackals MC) regarding the possibility to join and merge the Aryans into the Jackals. That was a conversation that was started on OOC grounds, and if that has been done to be taken advantage of the roleplay, it’s an utter disgrace.
  17. Lmfao I thought this was funny so I wanted to share it with you all before bed. This is the bush outside my window, separates the residential area from a small public park. Night time as well, and you can just walk through them and into the park. If you don’t believe me I’ll post a picture first thing in the morning lol http://imgur.com/jU3eUrm http://imgur.com/bHaZibn http://imgur.com/AUATCcX I got flash on, you claim you were in a car apparently and saw me from far away. Can you see anything in the pictures above, 4 meters away from the bush? Let’s get real for a moment, your argument is ridiculous, no offense lol. This is a clear case of metagame unfortunately. Awaiting the final virdict. P.S.: why on Earth was your car frozen by an admin while you were being shot at? [email protected]
  18. You’ve never been online as Earl Irwin to ever know there is an Irish organization. This was indeed metagamed, because if you had been around enough you would have known Roy Baker and the Jackals has business going on with your own faction already, you wouldn’t be coming to our clubhouse asking if we had to buy guns off you when we were already buying. You don’t know who your buyers are yet you claim to know information that only me, Craig Sweeney or the Bandidos could have given you, yet I’m the one who sold myself out? I don’t recall mentioning anybody, you mentioned them first when we met. But all I see is vague replies and nothing really substantial to back up any claim you made. Unitts asked a copy of your game footage if you have any that could possibly back up your claims. Who were the others ICly that told you about Roy selling guns to Craig? I mean you could have mentioned 100 different characters, the Asians, the market crew, the Italians, the gangs from idlewood and Jefferson, but you mentioned the Irish guy out of all these people, and you claim it was a bluff, a lucky guess? Damn lol Also, this is a lie. You never drove close to me at all, not enough to identify me. I didn’t hear your car and if I would have seen or heard a car coming off road in the direction of the bush I was hiding into, I would have moved, especially if that was Earl or a masked individual. So please let’s not get silly with this lol. You never drove close to me. You fired your gun from far away, you were nowhere near the bush. Why would I just stand like a moron if I heard someone coming up close to the bush? How would you even identify me from the distance in the screenshot below in the middle of the night in a bush? https://imgur.com/0PKFf1j I can see Rose Cantarella’s nametag because of aduty, I bet if that was off and she was in the bush from where I’m standing in the picture you wouldn’t be able to read the nametag. Not sure if this is powergame because you’re rping having an eagle vision, if it’s metagame or maybe both lol. Also you infact admitted you metagamed the nametag. Gg. You also debunked your entire reason to CK Roy while at it. You just said no one sold Roy out and Roy sold himself out? Not sure how this is supposed to make any sense unless we’re trying to force someone to give us IC information ICly that we are aware of OOCly. Roy had Edvar calling him saying you guys rammed him off road all of a sudden as a warning. Edvar called Roy multiple times to set a meeting place and never showed up. Why would you make Roy paranoid to begin with? You pushed Roy to be paranoid and because if that it warrants a CK? This is ridiculous. Edvar was confirmed to be with you guys by Sc0ttie so clearly we can aknowledge you planned to make Roy paranoid by killing The Bandidos and sending a warning to Roy. And because you made Roy paranoid, MEANING HE WAS FEARING FOR HIS LIFE, how is that a valid reason to CK if Roy didn’t disregard his life at all? I don’t believe you had any valid reason to request a CK, you haven’t provided one in specific and if it’s just about the paranoia then it’s a very poor reason, you could have just gone along with a PK if you feared there could have been consequences, although it appears we were after the very same people anyway. But I also don’t see any logic in what you said about how you found me. You can’t be serious by saying you identified someone hiding in a bush at 2am, you’d barely be able to see a thing in there. You metagamed the nametag, yet I still have no idea how you managed to get close enough (if you claim you did) to identify me without me spotting you as you said you drove up to me, because as I said, if I saw a car coming off road in my direction, I would have moved away or called for Craig as I was on my own. I’m not convinced whatsoever by all this. I had very little hope with this appeal to begin with, but after your rebuttal now I have actually got hope. I have faith Unitts will make the right call on this, because it’s all nonsense to be honest and the entire scenario at this point was unnecessary. I really don’t see why you’d plan on making someone paranoid just to kill them, and not a PK but a CK. No one walked away with anything from all this. It was the most pure form of character development’s death. It appears I got A LOT to say about why all this situation is wrong and why you’re wrong, yet you seem to have very little to say about why it’s right lol.
  19. Not to mention that Edvar ( @Salsa ) called Roy after everyone left Angel Pine to say they rammed him off road as a warning. Why would you send a warning if you’re going to kill everyone? Also because after this “warning” I have seen no one other than Craig and Ray Hall who escorted me to the bank. No idea based on what you decided to instead go from a warning to a CK, really can’t see the reason. This all does come across like metsgaming, no offense. Also let’s not ignore that you managed to spot me hiding in a bush while you were far up the road and managed to fire 4-5 bullets and kill me with 3 of them. It’s just too odd all of this.
  20. When you saw me you took a shot? I was idle in the bush for 5 minutes. This^ If you saw me going in the bush why did you go further away from me rather than just gun me down there and then on the spot? There’s nothing to plan about that really. This makes no sense. Also, you’re comparing a bush that could consist of plants to a hedge that is of totally different consistency. You can still hide in it somehow, very uncomfortable I guess, but it doesn’t mean you can't hide in it. Even if that wasn’t possible, it’s perhaps not an excuse to locate me otherwise, because no one was around when I jumped in there. We were doing laps around Dillimore while there was the situation of the fire up the road moments before I jumped out of the car and went inside the bush.
  21. There were at least 5 admins online if not more. You, Salsa, DrJoseEvil, Ixosis, Vubster, and I think Robert West was online too. Anyway thank you for clarifying and apologies if I came across impatient, it’s just that I know nothing of what is going on where normally it’s all ironed out on an appeal rather than behind closed doors.
  22. I don’t mean to sound impatient by any mean, but it’s been almost a week. I was informed via PM that this would at least be handled during the weekend and it’s Tuesday now. The administrator issuing the CK has not responded and no one else involved in this scene has responded either. I respect what you all do and appreciate the fact we all have other things to do and this is no top priority in our lives, I’ve been there and know what it means, but it is frustrating having to wait every time for a long time. Please get in my shoes, I made a CK request a month ago and I have received no answer from that, yet a CK request against me was apparently approved within an hour, and was submitted by another administrator. I made a report to set the front of a building on fire and had to see my report not taken for a pretty long time, having me to stick around to wait for my report to be accepted while another place was torched in the same area I wanted to do mine (and if my report would have taken, I wouldn’t have been in Dillimore and most likely wouldn’t be dead now, as it forced me to take different action). The whole situation is becoming very tedious, many of us are not going IG because of this. Despite me telling people to log, they won’t. Because when we killed someone for disregarding their own life and reported for a CK request the player was instead just PKed, where me not disregarding my life has brought a CK on my head. It’s very discouraging and frustrating all this, so I hope this can be at least replied anytime soon considering no one has made an effort to defend their point of view as to why I got CKed probably to keep their IC identity a secret although it’s pretty evident who it was. Thank you. @Unitts @QueenC @DrJoseEviI @Salsa
  23. I apologise for posting once again, but I was browsing the forums and I just noticed one thing. Yesterday Earl Irwin & Gabriel Jack pretty much inquired about who/where we bought our guns from, asked if it was Donny to which I said Yes, then said I had to instead buy the guns from them. Now I’m quite confused, granted that ICly I had no knowledge of them being part of the same group, but what was the meaning of the whole scene at this point if Roy was already buying guns from their organization? The situation was also never escalated by Roy or anyone of the Jackals against Earl and their group. It was infact Rose Cantarella and Sean Zukhov that talked Roy out of retaliation as he was taken by anger. Roy called the retaliation off and had never any plan to strike TYM, instead had a tail on him all night, was hiding for a couple of hours and then ends up being dead. I don’t see the part where Roy clearly disregarded his life other than carry weapons with him to protect himself, as explained in the main post why. TLDR: The Clifftown folks wanted Roy to buy guns from them and have business with them. However Roy has already told them he was buying guns from Donny who funny enough he wasn’t aware he was with the Clifftown people. So what was the point to escalate things that far if the business they wanted from Roy was already something they had in their pocket?
  24. Character Kill Appeal In Game Account Name- DarkGlasses Character Name- Roy Baker Date of Incident- 05/23/2019 Supervising Administrator- QueenC Narrative- Roy had a dispute with Earl Irwin. It all roots from the fact that Earl said to Roy that The Bandidos and the Irishmen told Earl that Roy supplies them with guns. That is an IC lie because Roy does not sell guns to the Bandidos as they have their own supply and the Irishmen couldn't have told them that because if they had relationship with Earl Irwin then they'd know better and wouldn't have just killed his girlfriend in cold blood. Then they broke into his clubhouse, restrained him and forced him to watch them rob him, trash the clubhouse and then forced him to acquire weaponry and liquors from them. Roy wanted to strike immediately, but after speaking to Sean Zukhov and Rose Cantarella he decided to take a light approach instead. The Bandidos pushed for retaliation and Roy instead told them to hang fire as he'd have to discuss with Edvar (Salsa) and Craig about what's going on. Roy went back to the clubhouse alone and Edvar never showed up, he called shortly after saying he was rammed off road by Earl's guys and he said they told him that was a warning. That set Roy off and convinced him that the guys from Clifftown were not gonna stop after what happened at the Clubhouse. Roy armed up with his SMG and a bag with clothes in case he had to hide himself. Craig picked Roy up and at that point it was clear that the multiple missed appointments with Edvar were a clear sign of him being kidnapped. Another thing that set Roy off was how the Bandidos showed up at the clubhouse without anyone informing them of what was going on. That was a hint that The Bandidos were playing a dirty game to set Roy up. Eventually Roy and Craig drove to the Bandidos MC clubhouse where they saw a pickup that was awfully similiar to the one driven by Gabriel Jack. Craig tried the door which was locked, so they considered the idea to torch the door and see if anybody would come out, mainly for the purpose of rescuing Edvar who was suspected to be taken as hostage. Roy and Craig also suspected that their radio channel had been somewhat infiltrated, so they tried to see if anybody would show up to locations they were calling via radio. Eventually, the Bandidos MC opened and Roy and Craig went there. As Roy was being paranoid and at this point feared for his life, he didn't go inside fearing that the Bandidos were working with Earl Irwin and going inside perhaps meant that Earl was there too. There was no reason for Roy ICly to receive any warning from Edvar about Earl and his boys ramming Edvar off road. Followed by the fact that Roy then realised Edvar got kidnapped, he wanted to find Edvar and knowing that Clifftown was after him for some reason now has set Roy off. However, Roy was 100% certain of the betrayal of the Bandidos. However, when the Bandidos bar opened, Craig went to check and Roy went to hide in a large bush. The idea was to get Russell away for a chat to figure out what was truly going on. Roy/myself, stood in the bush for a good 4 minutes at least before being gunned down. Now as you may be able to see in a panoramic picture of the bush I've taken, it's quite hard to locate the exact position of someone standing there and manage to kill that person with an accuracy of 75%. On top of that, I am not really sure how I was even identified in that bush. If they knew straight away it was me, I am not sure why it took them 4 minutes to decide whether or not to gun me down. I do accept loss because I believe both parties should always walk away from a RP scenario with development for their character, but when something doesn't make sense it's because usually the dots do not connect with each other, if you know what I mean. A.K.A. dodgy business. As for attempting to resolve this with the supervising administrator, I was just told there was nothing she could do and I was told to make a CK appeal. Can I also just highlight this screenshot? https://imgur.com/0PKFf1j Can you tell me how does someone from a distance greater than the one between me and that bush manage to ID a person in that bush and manage to also hit him with the first few bullets he shoots, with an accuracy rate easily of 75%? I honestly can't wrap my head around it. EDIT: How a CK can be applied on a character that isn't intentionally out to kill anybody or that isn't disregarding his life (scared beyond human comprehension to the point he is carrying two guns and multiple magazines on him other than a bag of clothes) can be applied? If I was ICly planning to kill anyone, I'd be on the lookout, I wouldn't be hiding in a garage in El Corona or in a bush in Dillimore, especially when as facts at hand I am outnumbered and have been potentially betrayed by an ally faction. All Roy wanted to do was to go rescue Edvar as he knew he had been most likely kindapped. Reason Roy wanted to rescue Edvar is because they've known each other for a while and Roy had just patched over The Aryans, merging them into The Jackals. Apologies for the bad grammar and the edits, just tired and forgetting things atm. Evidence- https://imgur.com/a/cuHqLUu Method of Death- Gunshot wounds. Have you attempted to resolve this already with the supervising administrator?- Yes
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