Brett

I do. Do you remember this; https://forums.owlgaming.net/topic/36739-the-1992-owlgaming-riots/

Rule Discussion Subject: Use of Government Perks Rule I want to...: Remove Elaboration: In the Faction Rules, under Use of Government perks, you have this line: Any faction that is financially supported through the Faction Team or Scripting may not have a wage higher than $1,500 except for brief periods of time where bonuses may be given out for the holidays. I believe this rule is arbitrary, and serves as a method to limit IC roleplay by OOC server rule limitation. Now in a sense, I understand where the rule is coming from. It's coming from the sentiment of real life, in that factions like the LSFD, LSPD, or any other entity such as that, can't be giving out thousands of dollars in paychecks per hour, as that would be rather unrealistic for police officers on the server to be able to afford all the rich houses in the server and the same logic can be applied to a few other factions such as that. However, this rule also prohibits private businesses who receive any script support or faction management team money, from setting their wages higher then that amount such as Companies, or any other private business that for some reason may receive script money or faction management team money which is rather unfair for those companies/businesses. Now you may wonder, "Well how are we going to stop people from setting high wages if this rule was removed?" The answer is rather simple. The F3 in which most factions use to pay their members, has a set cap on 2,500$ being the maximum you can pay people. So the script itself, doesn't allow you to place it ridiculously high, and allows the owners of the factions/businesses to appropriately manage their funding. PD, FD, and other government departments should of course be on a set budget set by their faction leaders and the government, and private businesses should of course be allowed to compete in terms of wages and bonuses. Just doesn't make any sense to impose an OOC 1,500$ cap on wages, when the script itself won't even allow you to pay past 2,500$.

We've actually run into a lot of issues where people get released by admins, were not supposed to be released, and although they can simply be put back, usually they would go and commit more IC crimes which would affect other players which they never should have had the freedom to do so anyway. And it's hard to argue "Well you would never have been able to commit that crime in the first place," when they're response is "Well I would've been released, as an admin did it." It happens more often then you would think.

On what basis can I report them? Please tell me, because every time a UAT member is reported, nothing happens.

Report them on what basis though? "They're drunk, punish them?" I have no basis to report them, because they broke no rules. Simply that they admitted they were intoxicated and that influenced their bad admin decisions the day before.

I don't think it's dumb, considering how two UAT admins in my time of Owl gaming have made decisions that are stupid because they were intoxicated, to which they fully admitted it. This has trickled down to some admins, and players. It's not dumb, it's an issue.

But you're not really trolling, because you're drunk. Not in full control of your actions.

And again. This is just not for people who break rules. Just a majority of this would most likely be directed towards them. It's generally people who also are intoxicated, but act like "mongs," because they're intoxicated.

I've had drunken admins do some stupid stuff, that weren't against the rules but generally shouldn't have been done to the point I actually got off the server just to avoid the "intoxicated," admin. I offered the moderation that most of the rule breakers would mostly be subject to the rule, but it can be extended to other situations for that full deterrence. Not every situation with an intoxicated person means they've broken another rule. Some of it is just behavior that shouldn't happen, but isn't against the rules.

It would be a separate punishment, from whatever they did. In order to act as a deterrence.

Yes, but it's more of a discouragement. We don't need people who are high or intoxicated really on the server, as they're bound to mess up. I just think this rule needs to be implemented as a sorta "Take a break man, come back later." Because even in situations that don't include an admin report directly, I've had people who are oocly intoxicated engage in some rather strange actions they otherwise wouldn't have done. Just saying.

Rule Discussion Subject: Limiting OOC Intoxication on the Server I want to...: New Rule Elaboration: Basically, due to some instances in this community of people using the excuse of "I was Intoxicated whether by Alcohol, Pain Killers, or any other Drugs," I believe a new OOC rule needs to be brought in to address this. Basically, people are using the excuse of intoxication to get out of punishments which they would otherwise have gotten if they were not intoxicated and I believe we need to control this a bit more. So here is my proposal. A rule that if you are caught intoxicated ingame on a OOC level, you will recieve a temporary ban for a duration of hours in accordance with the point system. Now of course, before anyone opposes this you must know that the only way you would actually be caught is if you were OOCly breaking some rules anyway, that an admin had to come to speak to you, this just imposes a penalty that if you are found intoxicated on a OOC level, you will receive a temp ban from the server seperate from whatever offense you are judged to have committed.